Did Slavs absorb/conquer any Balts though? Seriously? In about 80% of former Baltic territory.
January 30, 2017 at 9:05 PM
@ Aram Well, even Lev Kleyn criticized the association of Slavs with these cultures.
January 30, 2017 at 9:35 PM
Lev Kleyn criticizes most of things proposed by genetic studies. 🙂 Yamna theory included. Ancient DNA is needed to rule out this proposal.
January 30, 2017 at 11:43 PM
This EBA dude from Gustorzyn is very similar to Estonian Corded Ware. I’ll put up a new blog post about his genome-wide results later today.
January 31, 2017 at 12:56 AM
I’ll wager Poland or basically the wider circum-Tripolyean region is the homeland of middle-late Proto-Indo-European.
January 31, 2017 at 1:07 AM
Monday, January 30, 2017
R1a-Z280 from Early Bronze Age Northern Poland
PL_N17, an Early Bronze Age genome from Gustorzyn, Northern Poland, recently uploaded to the European Nucleotide Archive (ENA) under accession number SAMN04633627, belongs to Y-chromosome haplogroup R1a-Z280. R1a-Z280 today shows very high frequencies (>50%) and relatively high SNP diversity in Northern Poland. This is a strong argument for genetic continuity in Northern Poland since the Early Bronze Age. The analysis was run by Vladimir Tagankin from YFull, who, I’m told, is also pretty sure that PL_N17 falls under SNP R-S24902. Interestingly, R-S24902 is an extremely rare marker that currently appears to be most common in Northwestern Europe. But I’d say that there are two very good reasons for this: 1) most Y-chromosomes tested at this sort of level are from Northwestern Europe and 2) today Northwestern Europe shows higher genetic diversity than Eastern Europe. So I expect this pattern to be repeated for many other high resolution ancient Y-chromosome samples from Central and Eastern Europe. I don’t yet have the genome-wide data for PL_N17. If I manage to get it, I’ll run a whole bunch of analyses comparing him to ancient and modern-day Europeans. See also… R1a1a from an Early Bronze Age warrior grave in Poland Testing for genetic continuity in Poland from the Bronze Age to the present
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Samuel Andrews said…
Do you think Slavs have modern Eastern Europe most of its R1a?
January 30, 2017 at 3:37 PM
Don’t forget Balts. Balts used to occupy a much larger area than they do now, and they surely were always rich in R1a.
January 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM
What’s the context? Is this the guy that had his head modeled way back?
January 30, 2017 at 4:40 PM
1900 BC is the 1a phase of Trzciniec Culture and in Gustorzyn there are early Trzciniec Culture graves. So it is probably Slavic.
January 30, 2017 at 5:07 PM
Samuel Andrews said…
Did Slavs absorb/conquer any Balts though?
January 30, 2017 at 5:11 PM
1900 BC is also the Iwno culture. Given that this subclade is rare in modern Slavs, it’s a stretch to call this man Slavic. Also, there was no such language as Slavic in 1900 BC.
He’d be para-Balto-Slavic, if we wanted to create a term for it.
January 30, 2017 at 5:27 PM
In a recent report in Russian Academy the age of Slavic expansion was proposed at 200 AD.
January 30, 2017 at 8:48 PM
This date was calibrated with genetic data. Pshevorskaya ana Zarubinetskaya cultures were proposed as homeland.
January 30, 2017 at 8:51 PM
Orientacyjny zasięg kultur trzcinieckiej, komarowskiej i sośnickiej
Kultura trzciniecka – kultura wczesnej epoki brązu. Ze względu na złożoność zjawiska obejmującego również kulturę komarowską i kulturę sośnicką w literaturze mówi się o Trzcinieckim Kręgu Kulturowym. Stanowiska archeologiczne kultury trzcinieckiej obecne były na terenach centralnej, południowej i wschodniej Polski (Kujawy, Małopolska, Mazowsze, Podlasie) oraz zachodniej Ukrainy i zachodniej Białorusi (Polesie) od 1900 do 1000 roku p.n.e. Niektórzy autorzy uznają pierwotny zasięg kultury trzcinieckiej za kolebkę Prasłowian. (…)